Comments on: Distro-bashing

By: Tejaswi

Tejaswi — Fri, 23 Nov 2007 16:00:16 +0000

Hi
I was just passing by when I saw this argument. I recently updated to Ubuntu Gutsy. After an initial stage when I faced some problems, I and my system have settled down to a nice equilibrium. This is the most stable I have seen a Ubuntu install – I know that doesn’t say much as each version is more stable than the older one – but I can’t believe that I have spent WEEKS without customizing my system overmuch. I’ve instead used my system as I originally wanted to use it – it does whatever I ask to do it, no questions asked. I know that’s not what most people who use linux want, but I wanted my system to do what I wanted it to after an initial period where some work is put in. But this is the first release which has not asked me for more work after every input. Remarkable!

By: admin

admin — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 00:00:21 +0000

hmm, donno about distro bashing, but I surely see some bashing going on.
Chill it guys. These are just distros …. of course one is better than other in some sense and vice versa. The point is, we need to discuss things in broader perspective. A particular application may not run easily in one distro, but may run easily in other. There are different tricks and tweaks that these distros do with different components, and it surely makes life easy in some sense and hell(?) in other.
And anyways if you are not satisfied, you can always change the source code haha
There are issues with every distro, don’t fight on a particular point.
@Anupam : Dude, when you know so much, and when you deal with such not-so-general codes (am I wrong?), try to consider that there are some basic things that no one will fiddle with. And if you will believe this fact, I am sure you will come up with some simple solution… and anyways, for such tasks show some geekiness to solve the problem rather than changing distro.

By: Anupam Ashish

Anupam Ashish — Tue, 13 Nov 2007 19:44:29 +0000

please point out some of these lemme know if i did so …. the reason you probably dislike me would be because you don’t like nebody disagreeing with u ….
secondly u don’t know the way to argue .. because u r too arrogant …nebody disagreeing with is like hell … u can’t see nebody disagreeing with u even if it is his personal opinion ….u want to force ur opinion on other’s

By: bheekling

bheekling — Tue, 13 Nov 2007 18:13:11 +0000

pfft, the reason why I started personal attacks was because I dislike you. And why do I dislike you? Because you’re a fucking idiot is why. And trust me, getting me to think you’re a fucking idiot is an achievement.

I’ve had arguments with a lot of people as you know from the NG, but all of that was argument for the sake of debate. With you however, its because you annoy the hell out of me. You talk like you know things inside out and spread misinformation like the plague. Trying to refute you and showing how wrong you are isn’t worth it at all since you’ll just throw all that out the window the next time you open your mouth.

Congrats, you’ve made it to the extremely short list of people whom I’d love to see getting publicly humiliated.

By: Anupam Ashish

Anupam Ashish — Tue, 13 Nov 2007 18:05:44 +0000

I think you are a shame on the whole of IIT K . Neither you have any moral values nor you know how to talk . I am not making any hue or cry . This topic is distro bashing , it’s not personal attacks, just bcoz u don’t have any logic left with you does not mean u will start howling like a scumbag .
Please refrain from using such stupid words in future .. maybe rohit is all watching this and would like to close this discussions just because of few people who lost their minds and don’t know how to talk .

neway for you information i don’t use ubuntu ..i have faced these problems while working in my friends computer .. whose wireless drivers were not working even though he was using ubuntu .

By: bheekling

bheekling — Tue, 13 Nov 2007 14:45:33 +0000

Um, if you hate Ubuntu so much, use something else. Stop crying like a baby on this blog.

Oh, one more thing; you’re the definition of a troll, a shame on all CSE deptt people at IITK, and in general a total idiot.

By: Anupam Ashish

Anupam Ashish — Tue, 13 Nov 2007 14:19:44 +0000

@bheekling
u seem to feel unlucky feeling left out of the raunchy sex scene .

dude have you ever tried compiling iwlwifi and mac80211 where even symlinking /bin/sh->/bin/bash or changing #!/bin/sh to #!/bin/sh does not work .

if dat does not go thru ur thick skull then i would advise u not to watch a movie because u might not comprehend it .

By: bheekling

bheekling — Sat, 03 Nov 2007 17:21:31 +0000

@Anupam Ashish

1. The script started with #!/bin/sh, hence it is to be expected to be POSIX shell compliant. dash is POSIX compliant, a perfect subsitute for the original sh.
2. The script contained bashisms which would only work if the shell /bin/sh were linked to /bin/bash, which is not always the case. The proper thing to do would’ve been to use #!/bin/bash at the beginning of the script instead of #!/bin/sh
3. All you had to do was to change /bin/sh to /bin/bash in the script and it would’ve worked.

If it still doesn’t get through your thick skull, I’ll give you an analogy:

The Intel compiler script was like a movie claiming to be for kids, and having a raunchy sex scene in the opening credits.

Now, please stop trolling before you get mobbed by a group of *real* Ubuntu fanatics (I don’t even use Ubuntu anymore).

By: Anupam Ashish

Anupam Ashish — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 06:23:01 +0000

“Intel-compiler installation problem” regarding it I think bheekling himself never had tried his own solution .. he says problem is due to me fiddling with the my shell installation …but problem was with Ubunu symlinking /bin/sh->/bin/dash ..they say dash shell is faster ….but the dash shell is not comapatible yet to so many scripts I got to run ( load script of mac80211, installation script of vtune analyzer & Intel c compiler etc.) . So the only solution left was to symlink /bin/sh->/bin/bash . If you still don’t believe check it it . bheekling does not want to believe that problem can ever be because of “dash” shell .

Introducing new things is good but not at the cost of compatibility.

Might be compiz is quite stable in gutsy i was talking of fiesty .

I agree with Arun Fedora is a messy distro for new users .Ubuntu is best for any new user . But there are enough guides available for you . And if you don’t want the unnecessary services in fedora installed by default use live cd ( fedora has a live cd )or you will have to be very careful at the time of installation to have the packages carefully picked ( although its not easy too ) .

I like fedora because I have learned how to configure it well , and really enjoy its performance and looks (which I don’t get in the other )

By: Arun Raghavan

Arun Raghavan — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 05:40:27 +0000

Anupam: You’re comparing the performance of a single (at least at the time that you were using it) *experimental* package to draw your conclusion. And a couple of things:

1) New users: They do _not_ want to display “sufficient interest” to go and add repos. Things must *just work*. And they shouldn’t have to go disable a useless services that are on by default.

2) Fonts: These are a subjective. I dislike both sets, and use DejaVu Condensed.