Ubuntu upgrade
So, one of the reasons why I use ubuntu and not debian is that I want relatively new softwares. But ubuntu’s release period is really irritating now. They release a new version in every 6 months. Of course, nothing major changes this short duration. So, all they do is mainly add new release of KDE or gnome, thats it. Basically in ubuntu upgrade is practically equal to a decent size update. Now, there is nothing wrong is releasing new releases every six months, the problem is that those new softwares are not supported in previous release. For example, Jaunty has KDE4.2. But Intrepid will not have 4.2. Just because KDE updated, and because I want to use KDE4.2, I have to upgrade (or I have to use unsupported KDE, which I want to avoid, for obvious reasons). I wonder how big an issue it would be for system administrators. This is getting irritating. The definition of upgrade and update is totally screwed for Ubuntu.
The only decent difference as I see between Jaunty and Intrepid is KDE version, couldn’t they just give an update for KDE. I believe same goes with gnome.
Now then summer is coming, I think I will again be exploring various distros. Any suggestions?
Update : Oh, the issue with upgrading is that there are chances of things breaking. For example, when I upgraded to Jaunty, my knetworkmanager was gone. So, I had to use LAN and install it. fglrx drivers are not installed. And stuff like that.
Try archlinux – It is a rolling release
– It is bleeding edge and everything just works.
Hmm… I will give it a shot.
very true … i also was irritated to find that they didn’t push 2.26 .. but who knows they fear it might cause some things to break on our side .. not only that they didn’t even update gimp
grrrrr
upgrading has more chances of breaking things than update. (Unless they think that people will take backup and will reinstall the whole OS again, which would be stupid)
Try Windows 7.
Why? Because it comes with XP?
Lol. You could say that. Microsoft has built up on their eXPerience and Windows 7 is not to be taken lightly. I know dabbling around with Linux distros can be fun and all, but when it’s time to move on… it’s time to move on. Leave Linux where it belongs – small-scale server rooms, embedded systems etc. I mean, look at yourself, for example, you’ve been whining on every little thing on the Linux desktop. Doesn’t that signal you something?
My mother keeps saying I suck at everything, that doesn’t mean she is done with me.
), and windows doesn’t provide them. But this doesn’t mean linux becomes worse than Windows. The criticism I make (in general) about FOSS are beyond Window’s level.
As far as upgrade is concerned, linux is much better than Windows. Atleast I don’t have to reinstall the OS. The problem with Linux is the updates I think (thats why debian remains stable
I still agree that there are lot of things which are possible with Windows and not with Linux. But I do not get to face them in general. And I do not have that much money, because using the same arguement, I will have to buy Office, Adobe etc. So, I don’t think I need to move on. “Move on” is a very negative, but I am still using this term because you are right. After sometime, you need to stop playing and use a stable system. But for me, and a lot of people, Linux is stable. (these are my views based on XP, 2003, 2008 and Vista)
So it all comes down to the matter of money?
I was expecting a more “whatever floats my boat” kind of answer. It’s not like everyone needs a copy of Adobe’s design-oriented software, do they?
Moreover, Windows 7 RC is free (in terms of money) to try out. All I ask is that you give it one try… just one. Or are you scared that you’d turn your allegiances away?
He was always secretly a windows guy
No, its not just about money. You are misinterpreting what I said. I am happy with Linux. Seriously, I am. I do not think I will get awesome softwares like Okular or Kontact+kopete+konversion on Windows. So, no, linux is my choice. Even if it was closed source.
And anyways, are you trying to insist on Windows 7 or windows/vista in general? Because I do not think Windows 7 will have any significant usability improvement over XP (from end user point of view).
Oops, my bad. Shouldn’t have phrased it as “it all comes down to money”. In the end, it’s you who’ll have to evaluate against a. availability of or preference towards softwares such as Okular, Kontact, Kopete, Konversation and b. the hassles you’ve been constantly complaining/whining about how mainstream Linux distros behave, in general, in your blog.
I’m not insisting that you try Windows 7. All I ask is that you give it a chance rather than simply “think”. That’s not how software is evaluated. There have been positive opinions on Windows 7 all over the place and I’m surprised you even compare it to the ancient piece of crap that XP is without even trying it.
Point a : I am sure I will prefer KDE framework. Secondly, I don’t want to miss awesome konsole of unix. For that matter, I wouldn’t mind that much using Mac.
Point b : I do accept that Linux is not matured enough yet. But again, it satisfies most of my requirements. And the whining I have been doing is above the Windows level. Its the FOSS beauty that I can whine, isn’t it?
Windows : Let me put it this way. Gutsy was as good as Jaunty (for most of the purposes). The only significant difference is that I used to use KDE3.5 on gutsy and 4.2 on Jaunty. Its the KDE which made the difference. So, as long as MS Office, remote desktop, firefox and pidgin works on XP, and the drivers are available, XP is good. Since you have tried XP, Vista and Windows 7, what difference do you see? Apart from hardware requirement, and added Windows Effects. Rather, I respect XP as much as I would say thats the best you can expect (usability wise).
Well it is not exactly just a matter of money its a combined effect of money , excitement , ability to easily use terminal , the awesome software ( quality and quantity) …
for me these are the reasons and i personally like XP too .. btw nareshov do you own a win license ? ( no not talking abt vista)